View Full Version : First time PC Builder! need advice :)
Firstly i would like to say in comparison to a lot of different pc component websites Dabs is one of the cheapest i even considered buying on ****** as well as getting the parts from USA. But luckily I've been doing some research on the cheapest parts around(cheapest including shipping) for me because I haven't got a whole lot to spend on a basic gaming pc. Generally I am looking for compatability issues or if people recommend different parts for my PC. I do appreciate all help :)
Case : Best Value mars midi tower gaming case
PSU : Best Value 550W Gold PSU 12cm 24-Pin 550
Motherboard : Asus AM3 AMD 880G DDR3 mATX SATA6
Processor :AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz Black Edition Socket AM3 L2/L3 6MB
Harddrive: Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3 7200rpm SATA 3Gb/s 32MB
Optical drive : Sony Optiarc AD-7260S-0B 24X DVD/RW SATA Burner Optical Drive
Ram : Corsair Memory XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 XMS3 1600Mhz DIMM CL9 1.65V
GFX : Gainward GeForce 8400GS 567MHz 1GB PCI-Express HDMI
CPU fan :Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev.2 CPU Cooler
Harddrive fan :Akasa Hard Disk Drive Cooler - Blue
Monitor : LG Electronics LG W2246S-BF 22" 5ms 1000:1 LCD Monitor
Generally I will use this computer for 3D rendering, photoshopping and the occasional light gaming. I generally dont play games that need intense systems. I only picked AMD processor as they are cheaper and I could benefit from a Quadcore instead of the single core laptop I am using for rendering etc. And if I am missing any components bar the obvious mouse/keyboard let me know :)
Actually if it helps my budget is roughly â‚¬600/Â£540 including monitor .
Welcome to the forum. I have to admit that, when specing a new build, I end up with an enormous spreadsheet of prices from various places but generally end up here for the main bits and pieces.
As regards your build, there are no compatibility issues per se, but a few comments nonetheless:
Case - fine. It is compatible with the mATX board you specify and has a fair bit of cooling.
PSU - I would recommend most strongly that you avoid value brands for a PSU. Ultimately, the PSU is the one component that could fry everything else so it is important to go for a named brand. I am not saying that a cheaper brand will definitely go wrong but, being built with lower quality components, it is more likely to fail with the results potentially being fairly disastrous! I would stick with brands such as Corsair, OCZ, Antec etc. The cheapest 500W PSU that I would recommend is the XIGMATEK NRP-VC503 (http://www.dabs.com/products/xigmatek-nrp-vc503-500w-psu-7BPZ.html?refs=55420000) at Â£33.98
Motherboard - fine but it says ordered upon request so it would be worth checking lead times / whether it is still current.
Processor - good choice
Harddrive - good choice
Optical drive - good choice
Ram - good choice
GFX - the 8400GS is a fairly old GPU but would probably do for basic requirements. That said, an extra Â£5 would get you a ATI Radeon 6450 HD (http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-ati-radeon-6450-hd-625mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-7GNL.html) which is one of the latest offerings from AMD/ATI and will run a fair bit faster (I'm struggling to find any 8400GS benchmarks to prove this which indicates its age).
CPU fan - the CPU comes with a stock cooler. Unless you are planning to overclock then it should be sufficient so you could do without this item.
Harddrive fan - I have to admit that I have never even thought about one of these before. I'm not convinced that you would really need it.
Monitor - I have no experience of LG monitors but it seems reasonable
I would agree with DMS. I have experience with LG monitors and they are perfectly good monitors so go ahead and buy. For the PSU, absolutely avoid the best values. The value will soon disappear when it pops it's cap and takes the rest of your PC with it. Buy Corsair, Anteq, Coolermaster, Xigmatek, OCZ, XFX. If you have to dump the HD & CPU fans to put towards the cost of getting a better PSU, then do it. As DMS says, I would avoid the GeForce 8xxx series nowadays as it's getting a bit long in the tooth and there are newer and faster cards around for much the same price, e.g. Geforce 210 (which itself is getting old). For the price range.. in this case I would agree with DMS and go for the Radeon 6450 (which incidentally has more memory that I believe will also help with your 3D rendering).
Well I am just agreeing with everyone else again :p, and just to reiterate no HDD fan is needed on any modern drive old drives used to run at 40-48 degrees which at times caused issues new drives well my worst drive (5 years old) runs at 32 my best at 27.
Awesome :D Thanks for all the help :) I wouldn't want to fry the parts because of a dodgey PSU :) I took your advice on the XIGMATEK NRP-VC503 PSU but will this work also on a M-ATX because it does say it will work on an ATX but I think asking is better than buying it and not working :P Do you reckon 8gb of ram in necessary for 3D rendering, photoshopping and well video editing ? or will 4 do the job just fine ? :)
I took your advice on the XIGMATEK NRP-VC503 PSU but will this work also on a M-ATX
Yes - the key is to make sure the power connectors match.
The board requires: "4-pin ATX12V connector, 24-pin main power connector"
The PSU has: "1 x power 24 pin ATX with detachable 4 pin section , 1 x power 8 pin +12V with detachable 4 pin section"
So the 24 pin main connector goes in fine and you simply detach the detachable 4 pin section of the ATX connector to plug that bit in.
Do you reckon 8gb of ram in necessary for 3D rendering, photoshopping and well video editing ? or will 4 do the job just fine ?
You will probably be better off with 8GB and, to be honest, the price of RAM at the moment is so low that 8GB makes the most sense anyway.
Would you reckon I should wait until the release of the AMD Bulldozers until purchase ? Any idea if the prices will drop on the current quadcore or hexcore processors ? :) No point buying Qcore processor then a month later it will drop in price by 20 - 30Â£ :)
Processors dont tend to drop in price with a new generation if anything they go up slightly :p.
I'd almost be tempted to wait if only to see how BD performs. Like 2o2o says, prices of the current/previous generation chips are very unlikely to drop, in some instances they never do regardless of age. The only problem with waiting is that there is no confirmed release date. 11-Jun keeps being mentioned but some say this is only the server chips, others say this has been delayed etc etc.
Fair enough looks like ill go ahead with my purchase i wonder could i get a discount because i'm spending about 600 :)
Yes - If you contact Dunc at email@example.com with a list of what you are buying he will sort you out with some discount.