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Which do you think i should spend more on my motherboard or GFX card ? I know both are significant for different reasons but I do plan on overclocking and gaming too. But generally its for rendering 3D.
Should I spend Â£150 on a good motherboard and Â£50 on a GFX card or vice versa ? :)
For gaming you should be looking at the new Intel Z68 motherboards (http://www.dabs.com/category/components-and-storage,motherboards-and-processors,motherboards/11143?q=z68) and an i5 2500K CPU which leaves little room for an expensive GPU if this is your budget.
If you want to perform 3D rendering and some gaming, i know of no graphics card under Â£100 that will give you what you need, so you do need to spend Â£150 on a graphics card to get anything decent such as this (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-ati-radeon-6850-hd-790mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-779C.html?q=radeon%206850), now with extra money off.
If your budget is really this tight i would suggest 50:50 split, Â£100 on each a motherboard and graphics card. Try:
Hope this helps.
That does help greatly thanks :) See i have a budget of 600 for everything except monitor and accessories but that budget was based on me getting everything at once but if i get it over a period of a month i guess ill have a larger budget of 800 :)
One thing i learnt when building is to never buy components until you can afford everything.
You can add things later of course, but if you buy a couple of components, and then some more, and then the rest, by the time you have all of the components necessary to build a working PC the components you bought first may be cheaper, or there may be a newer version available.
if you can wait a little while it is definitely worth saving a little and buying a Z68 motherboard and at least an ATI 6850/6870 or Nvidia GTX 550Ti as this will serve you well for a long time to come.
I've put together list of components for you to look at, i don't know whether there are any specific components you want, but this might be a good starting point.
In total this comes to just under Â£650, there is no case or DVD drive as i don't know what your needs are but there should be plenty of budget left for them if you are looking at around Â£800.
I've also added watercooling as you said you were looking into overclocking, and this Corsair is a very good cooler for a very reasonable price.
Just a few quick thoughts.
Motherboard - the P8Z68 (Â£149.98) is great especially due to the SSD caching facility but, for your type of usage, one of the P67 boards would be more than sufficient. The P8P67 LE (Â£109.99) (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p8p67-le-rev-3-0-lga1155-intel-p67-ddr3-atx--b3-stepping--7DTM.html?q=p8p67) and P8P67 (Â£124.99) (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-p8p67-rev-3-0-lga1155-intel-p67-ddr3-atx--b3-stepping--7DL9.html?q=p8p67) would do the job and save you a fair bit.
GPU - the GTX 550 Ti is a bit of a curious beast. Performance-wise, it falls somewhere between the HD5770 and GTX460 768MB. For about the same price, you could get a HD6850 (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-ati-radeon-6850-hd-790mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-779C.html?refs=43990000-55110000) or a GTX 460 1GB (http://www.dabs.com/products/best-value-geforce-gtx-460-700mhz-1gb-pci-express-2-0-hdmi--sonic--72KQ.html?refs=43990000-55110000), both of which outperform it by a fair margin. I should say that that the Palit GTX 460 is a cracking card but has a noise level akin to a Flymo!
Memory - the item linked to appears to be a single 4GB module. For best performance, you will need to get a matching pair - so either two of the 4GB modules mentioned for a total of 8GB or a 4GB kit (http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-4gb--2-x-2gb--xms3-ddr3-1600mhz-dimm-cl9-7GJF.html?refs=468490000) of two 2GB modules.
RAM wise I would go for Corsair Vengeance (http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-4gb--2-x-2gb--vengeance-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9-7FGX.html?refs=52280000), also on the whole Z68 v p67 thing there is no contest you say you want it for 3D rendering the gfx core of the processor can be accessed for rendering on the Z68 which while only gives a small increase in performance it is an increase. Also the GFX card can be changed as you go along like when the next generation cards come out current cards will plummet in price and well the 460 card was so good that companies are still building cards based on the gfx core. Also when it comes to overclocking put in a request for Dunc to look at stocking the Antex Kuhler watercooling units they are cheaper than corsair outperform by a few degree's and in certain environments are beating the best of the air cooled units.
Good points, all of them. I must admit i rather missed the fact that the RAM was one stick, my error, and probably a HD6850 is better especially if you can reflash it to a 6870.
Thanks guys! Been busy on holidays so i would've responded sooner. I really appreciate all the advice given it does really help! I might fork out the extra cash for the SSD drive for Win7, only because I heard such great things about it. I reckon my budget will be around 800 :) can't wait to get my new system :)
Windows 7 works well with SSDs due to it's TRIM feature maintaining read / write speeds, but in reality you will only notice a few seconds difference with loading times and install speeds etc. over a proper 7200rpm HDD.
I have yet to run any 3d or video rendering on mine, but it will probably not be as fast as you're hoping. with your budget you would probably be better saving the pennies and putting them into a Z68 motherboard or better GPU.
Would agree with Altair except rather than saving your pennies get the Z68 and the nice 32gb SSD thats under Â£50 that SSD with the Z68's cache feature will give good results cheap.
Would have recommended an SSD, but for this budget they are really rather too small for 3D rendering.
How useful will a 32GB drive be when that will easily be filled with large files, or you will have to copy files across, render them, and then copy them back to a storage drive.
That's not how the caching feature works though the board will use that 32gb to store the most accessed information so when it is needs it is ready to go this has shown a 10-15x improvement in HDD transfer for app loading and while not as big of a performance boost in other aspects it still gives an improvement in them all.
Effectively the SSD in combination with a mechanical hard drive becomes a hybrid.
Ah cheers, no point in spending money on a SSD so for a few seconds difference :) Z68 boards - I have heard nothing but great reviews from them. I bought a CoolerMaster case yesterday so I'm quite excited to begin buying the rest of the parts :D I'll be putting my money towards a graphics card instead of the SSD. Hopefully I can win the ongoing comp :)
Hopefully I can win the ongoing comp :)
You and me both :p especially now one of my drives has failed
How long does the comp run for anyways ? :P Got my case today :D
from the first post in the competition thread, it sounds like it runs until the end of June
btw nice case, got a mean glow about it. bit like mine (http://www.coolermaster.co.uk/upload/product/6637/gallery/full/HAF%20X-590x442-1.jpg?951507752).
My Birthday on 28th so just gotta hope the Birthday luck runs on for a couple of days :p
Well best of luck and anyways hopefully someone will buy you one for your birthday :P