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Hey guys i need your help. I want to know what you think of this build i am making. It will be used in video/image editing, sound editing, web-development and cad design. It will also be used for gaming as part of our companies work relief-relax program. I do not have a price limit as the company I work for is paying for it and requested that I have a future proof machine. I would appreciate any changes you may have to this list.
Blu-Ray Drive x2:http://tinyurl.com/6rsp7jg
Internal Hard Drive x2:http://tinyurl.com/862tgr8
Video editing software:http://tinyurl.com/6wbva6w
The audio program is included in both Sony and Adobe.
All together, including all the cables and 2 hdd coolers, the price comes to roughly 15,500 euro. Keep in mind that this machine needs to be future proof and last for a long time.
Everything in green is sorted out
Keeping in mind that the machine need to be future proof, it doesn't appear to have any PCI-e 3 slots. Cards for which are due in a few months.
How many GPU's you planning on having? for just the one, the PSU will do fine, if you plan on using the full Tri-SLI/Quad-Crossfire, futurproofing again, you'll need to increase that PSU.
Also the socket's a 1366, Ivy Bridge will be using 1155 from what I understand. Not sure if they'll be using both, if 1366 will support the architecture.
Also has an older chipset, not sure what your plans are with the SSD but I'm not sure you'll be able to use it as a cache drive, if that's an idea.
I would upgrade the CPU and motherboard to 2011 (x3960, and a x79 board) and this will give future support for PCI-e 3.0, also allow for more RAM upto 64gb. Also the OCZ Revodrive (http://www.dabs.com/products/ocz-technology-240gb-revodrive-3-x2-pci-express-solid-state-drive-7M9Y.html?refs=54280000&src=3) to replace the SSD it is twice the speed (8 times faster with the newer version but it isn't on dabs site), I would suggest using storage drive and a working drive as you shouldn't need a cache drive with 240gb working space.....
Well i plan on using only one GPU for the nex few months until the newer range of cards come out. What would be a good PSU if i wanted to go into tri sli
Also i do plan to overclock it so i suppose i i will need a better psu. any ideas?
A dream budget.... haha thats a serious piece of kit, I would get 2 graphics cards and take one home ;)
With the build as is, you would want as a minimum a 550W PSU. Add into that an overclock, say 4.8 at 1.4V, the minimum would be 650W. So easily enough headroom with the one you have selected. It's a bit difficult to estimate power usage for the next generation cards since there are many rumours that, whilst they may not bring to the fore huge speed increases in themselves (ignoring the PCI 3.0 architecture), they are likely to be more power efficient. But, based upon 3x GTX580s in SLI, you would be looking for around 1200W. This (http://www.dabs.ie/products/antec-tpq-1200oc-truepower-quattro-oc-1200w-modular-power-supply-7KPM.html?refs=55450000&src=3) is an excellent PSU (just to keep 2o2o happy) but does not have enough PCIe power cables fro triSLI so you would end up having to use MOLEX to PCIe converters. This (http://www.dabs.ie/products/corsair-1200-watt-pro-series-ax1200-71HN.html?refs=55450000&src=3) is the one that I would probably recommend.
Nothing really to add, so I'll slip into Essex mode for a sec.... WELL JEL!!!!!
Woo Antec, booo Crosair :p as for 3 way SLI Quadro that is both costly and INSANE they are already 8x faster than the 580's of this world how much do you need :p , I would grab a board with switch-able graphics cards and grab a 580 as a gaming and playing card quadro will be fairly weak on graphic intensive stuff it is design for computational graphics not textures, although saying that it will blast through any current game. As said though if going for 3 way 1200w is recommended unless going extreme high end where 1050w will do something like the Seasonic Platinum series (although I adore Antec and their quality levels, nothing touches a Seasonic PSU if I went on holiday to the US I would be bringing one back with me but they are expensive here)
ok so i have the mobo, ssd, psu and cpu covered.
is the ram ok at 24 gig or should i go for abit more.
also could i please get abit more clarity as to what graphics card/cards to get. remember i have no budget and has to be futureproof
24gb of RAM is very wrong the 2011 boards are 4 channel so I would go for Kingston HyperX (http://www.dabs.ie/products/kingston-16gb--4-x-4gb--hyperx-ddr3-1600mhz-240-pin-dimm-cl9-xmp-7SPJ.html?src=2) there is no need to go for the tightest timings the real world difference is nanoseconds and just isn't worth it even with an unlimited budget, going for an 1866 or a 2100mhz set will benefit but in the 2 seconds I looked I didn't see any. As for futureproofing graphics cards you are best upgrading when a new card comes out at the moment as the doubled bandwidth of PCI-e 3.0 will benefit CAD more than anything as computational graphics will use more bandwidth. I can't really advise on this fully though my knowledge of Quadro series is limited and my interest usually ends when I look at prices :p
As for monitors I don't know the extend of the detail of the CAD you are intending to do but I would guess colour reproduction accuracy will be important so I would look at IPS or PLS displays for realistic colour reproduction also 2 smaller side monitors with a large centre monitor makes a nice working environment unless of course you are intending to create items that will require 5760 x 1080 resolution
ok so i have everything sorted out apart from the graphics and sound cards. i am having one sound card and up to 3 graphics cards. could you guys please recommend something for these genres
Asus Xonar D2X is what I use and is excellent, although the switches are a little disconcerting when you play around with audio and get a loud click coming form inside you case :p
ok and as for the gfx card/s
+1 to the sound card recommended there!
How will your work be split percentage-wise between video/image editing, sound editing, web development and CAD? And for the CAD will it be OpenGL or D3D? If your work mostly involves CAD through OpenGL then a Quadro card may be the best route to go but, as 2o2o mention, they are not designed for gaming so you may need an additional solution for that side of things. If CAD is only a small proportion of your work or is D3D based then you would probably benefit from going down the multiple gaming GPU route.
I have had a little look around at testing with Quadro in gaming and the few tests I could find the highest end card was the FX 5000 and it was about on par with 550ti in games (so Â£1700 card on par with Â£100 card :p) You could get a motherboard with switches to turn off PCI-e slots and switch between a quadro and a 580 depending what you are doing however I can't see that being a smooth easy operation :p
Edit - I realise a link would be nice but I found it last night and can't find it again now
ok well i will be having two of my monitors for work and one for gaming. will i be able to have two diff cards in it and just switch between them in the menu?
Unfortunately not they use completely different drivers one needs to be disabled to use the other. I would suggest looking at DMS post and figuring out which would be the better choice personally I would say Quadro is for those who use nothing but CAD personally but then like I said before my understanding of Quadro's is very basic.
Unfortunately not they use completely different drivers one needs to be disabled to use the other.
Are you 100% sure about that
Support multiple drivers in a multi-adapter and multi-monitor setup
Whether you actually can or not I don't know know, but that would suggest it's possible.
The other solution is to dual boot, and enable the Quadro in one and a Geforce on the other. Granted it will take a reboot, but if you are using an SSD that won't take much time anyway
I must admit I was thinking about that when I was typing, I was thinking about the Z68 where they would work using onboard and the PCI-e graphics just don't know how easily they work together but saying that being from same manufacturer surely the software would work harmoniously
Hmm the whole graphics thing could be made a lot more confusing by adding the word "FirePro" into the mix :p
I must admit I would pick the firepro over the Quadro, or even mars 2 is good :P
ok guys thanks for your help. but i have sum bad news. the company i work for has gone into receivership and i wont be making any computer any time soon. :( so it looks like my beast of a machine isnt going to become a reality. thanks for your help anyway