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I havn't built a PC before but looking on the forum here I think I should give it a try.
My current PC, which is a few years old now, is struggling and I need to upgrade.
My planned general use is the Adobe Master Suite programs, mainly web design & graphic design, but I would like a new machine to be upgradable for video editing work without too much fuss if required.
I wondered if anyone had any thoughts on a possible build that might be suitable. I don't have a massive budget and would hope to put something together for around the Â£800 mark. I also need a new monitor, tablet, keyboard & mouse and any suggestions on these too would be grately appreciated as the the options avaliable are making my head spin.
Alternatively, any suggetions on off the shelf computers avaliable would also be welcome.
Looking to spend about Â£1,000 to include computer, monitor, keyboard, mouse and wacom tablet (or alternative). Again looking for a machine that could be upgraded to handle video editing if required.
Any thoughts on this would be much apprecited.
I am going to be lazy now as am supposed to be working :p I'll see what sort of system would be good later, but the video editing is no problem with that budget any machine put together will be more than enough for that.
Not really my area, but I believe the key elements will be high end processor (as many cores as possible for video editting), plenty of RAM, a decent GPU and lots of fast storage.
Of the current CPU crop, some of the AMD X6 chips score well for video but the Intel i7-2600K seems a very attractive option not least due to the hyper-threading and overclocking ability. It would be worth having a look at Tom's Hardware (http://www.tomshardware.com/) where you can find benchmarks for CPUs based upon application use.
For RAM, 4GB is the absolute minimum, with 8GB being preferable. That is about as far as you will probably want to go within your price range.
If I remember rightly, Adobe CS uses a fair bit of the GPU power so something decent would be sensible. The GTX 560 or HD 6950 offer good bang for buck at the moment so would be the ones to look. Again, have a look at some benchmarks for the specific applications you use.
I use Photoshop a fair deal and can strongly recommend getting fast and large storage due to the size of files involved. For me the ideal would be an SSD to act as boot drive plus hold the Adobe applications then a couple of 1TB HDDs in RAID 0 for data. That would probably work out the most reasonable. I have no experience with SSDs as yet so cannot recommend anything but for 1TB HDDS, the Samsung HD103SJ is excellent.
DMS think you hit the budget limit kinda early in that list :p
Depends whether you mean the starting budget. The actual budget. Or the final figures that you dare not add up!
Case Silverstone Precision Midi ATX Black noPSU (http://www.dabs.com/products/silverstone-precision-midi-atx-black-nopsu-77NQ.html)
PSU Antec BP 500U Basiq 500W PSU (http://www.dabs.com/products/antec-bp-500u-basiq-500w-psu-737W.html)
Motherboard M4A87TD EVO Motherboard (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-amd-am3-870-ddr3-atx-6ZFQ.html?refs=432790000-50626)
CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition (http://www.dabs.com/products/amd-amd-phenom-ii-x6-1090t-black-edition-processor-6Z3T.html?refs=4294946173)
RAM Corsair Memory 8GB (http://www.dabs.com/products/corsair-memory-8gb--2x4gb--ddr3-xms3-1600mhz-dimm-cl9-1-65v-75H5.html?refs=4294945003)
Graphics Sapphire Technology ATI Radeon 6850 HD 1GB (http://www.dabs.com/products/sapphire-technology-ati-radeon-6850-hd-775mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-7783.html?refs=460920000)
HDD OCZ Technology 120GB Vertex 2 (http://www.dabs.com/products/ocz-technology-120gb-vertex-2-sata-ii-2-5--72KB.html?refs=4294946247-50121)
HDD Seagate 2TB Barracuda Green (http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-2tb-barracuda-green-sata-600-64mb-7200rpm-78H7.html?refs=52770000)
Optical Drive Samsung 12x BD-ROM/DVDRW (http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-12x-bd-rom-dvdrw-lightscribe-sata-757C.html?refs=4294953226)
Monitor BenQ 24" G2420HDBL 2ms DVI full HD LED (http://www.dabs.com/products/benq-24--g2420hdbl-2ms-dvi-full-hd-led-screen-69MC.html?refs=376750000&q=led)
Tablet Wacom Wacom Bamboo Pen (http://www.dabs.com/products/wacom-wacom-bamboo-pen--tablet--6775.html?refs=50214)
Keyboard and Mouse Dont need anything special so just budget in Â£30 for something
Optical Drive Â£44.08
Sure if you e-mail dunc he could drop that a bit and well I've been OTT on some stuff like the 120gb SSD 60gb is enough just nice to have some SSD space for the files your working on. Plus of course haven't added in Windows which is Â£80 ish.
To save a few extra pennies, you could go for: a basic DVDRW drive (http://www.dabs.com/products/sony-24x-dvd-rw-sata-black-bare-internal-drive-73PL.html?q=sony%2024x) instead of the BDROM at Â£11.98; a GTX 460 (http://www.dabs.com/products/pny-geforce-gtx-460-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-789H.html?q=gtx%20460) instead of the 6850 at Â£124.99; the 60GB (http://www.dabs.com/products/ocz-technology-60gb-vertex-2-sataii-2-5--72K9.html?q=ssd) version of the OCZ SSD at Â£91.99.
I was also going to recommend the non-LED version of the Benq 24" but the price difference is very small these days. The above reduces the cost by about Â£120.
I think if the LED version is upto Â£20-30 more you will make back the difference in your leccy bills in a year. 24w LED version 49w cathode version.
Thanks guys that's absolutly brilliant!
I'll do a good bit of required reading and come back shortly. Would this be failry straight forward to put together for a newbie? I'd obviously be careful.
It all will look complicated but is actually really easy, there are plenty of guides on youtube although I must admit I do disagree with a lot of them mainly because they install the motherboard after the PSU. If you do the build please install the PSU first then plug it into the mains and switch the power on this will remove static from the case and will remove static from you when you touch the case.
I wouldn't go for the LED BenQ monitor, I'd go for the standard one for the following reason. There are many reports of the LED version having slight colour change depending on the viewing angle. As this PC is to be used primarily for graphics & video work those colour variations might prove to be troublesome.
PSU I still have to go for the Corsair (yet again)
Also if you have no need for Bluray then you can go for a cheaper DVDRW and save yourself another Â£25
The rest of 2o2o's list is spot on (or you could still go with all of it). I too would go for the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition at your price point. Intel would be good but as you are also requiring monitors and tablets it makes things a bit tighter and the AMD is a powerful chip for the price. Definitely contact Dunc though at email@example.com and he will very likely reduce that price below your Â£1000 mark.
You do love your Corsair PSU's :p and it is a good PSU but I recommend that Antec Basiq because after many builds Antex PSU's are the only ones that have never had an issue and I am a firm believer that Antec are the best until you go into true high end PSU's.
Another vote for Corsair PSUs here. Although the 500CX should be more than sufficient for a single GPU setup.
Starting to feel like its me and Antec vs the world :p but well when it comes to CP PSU's we win hands down :D
I had actually considered recommending the XFX 750W but I think it's just overkill for that system, and less than 650w is underkill. The 650W just hits a sweet spot of having that extra bit of juice and has just that extra little bit of headroom over the 500W, and it's better to have slightly too much than slightly too little. Then there's the warranty in that Antec's is a two year warranty and Corsair gives you a five year warranty. Funnily enough though I don't actually have a Corsair myself, I use a Coolermaster 700W. I would however also recommend the XFX (also five year warranty) as well as the Corsair.
Thanks again, this is a massive help!
I could really do with avoiding too much price creep, but historically have always gone with an intel chip. Is there a noticable difference these days between the Intel and AMD chips? There's a lot of "talk" but I wondered what you guys thought? How much more are we talking?
Intel chips are definately outperforming AMD at the moment however for what you are wanting the system for more cores is more important and to match the 1090t the cheapest intel system would cost 100-120 more. Also when I say outperforming it is very slight in real world terms, and the i5 2300 is the nearest in price it will cost you about Â£30 more including a motherboard and in tests it is slightly better the reason I didn't recommend it was simply overclocking the 2300 cannot be overclocked it is completely locked however the 1090t can be overclocked which while you may not be comfortable with at the moment, if in the future you just want a boost you can overclock it and it will feel like a new machine again for a while. (long sentence) If you do feel you want to overclock you will have to replace your heatsink though I can't recomend overclocking with the cooler that comes in the box.
If you would like to consider the Intel route I would recommend the i5-2500k (this can be overclocked) and the Asus P8P67 PRO this will cost you Â£85 more but will be a good upgrade.
Wacom Pen and Touch for your tablet, without a doubt. I use it all the time for web design work and graphic design. Great pressure sensitivity, very accurate and the multitouch gestures are really useful :)
If you want an Intel system, then at the price range you suggest it will be hard to slot in with Sandy Bridge 1155 or i7 X58. You will however manage i7 1156 within your budget.
Case - XIGMATEK Midgard (http://www.dabs.com/products/xigmatek-midgard-chassis-77R1.html?refs=369150000)
Motherboard - Gigabyte P55 S1156 DDR3 ATX (http://www.dabs.com/products/gigabyte-p55-s1156-ddr3-atx-6M5K.html)
Processor - Intel Core i7 Quad 870 (http://www.dabs.com/products/intel-core-i7-quad-870-2-93-8mb-656W.html)
Memory - Patriot Memory Viper II 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 (http://www.dabs.com/products/patriot-memory-viper-ii-8gb--2x4gb--ddr3-1600mhz-cl7-79GL.html?refs=4294945003)
Graphics Card - Asus ATI Radeon 6850 HD (http://www.dabs.com/products/asus-ati-radeon-6850-hd-790mhz-1gb-pci-express-hdmi-779C.html)
PSU - XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified Single Rail PSU (http://www.dabs.com/products/xfx-650w-80--bronze-certified-single-rail-75R9.html)
Boot HDD -Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB Sata HDD (http://www.dabs.com/products/seagate-barracuda-7200-12-500gb-7200rpm-s300-16mb-5HQ4.html)
Data HDD - Samsung 2TB SpinPoint F4EG Sata HDD (http://www.dabs.com/products/samsung-2tb-spinpoint-f4eg-sata3-32mb-74TD.html?refs=441610000-361720000)
DVDRW - LiteOn 24x Int. DVDRW Blk Retail SATA (http://www.dabs.com/products/liteon-24x-int--dvdrw-blk-retail-sata-64YS.html)
Tablet - Wacom Bamboo Pen (Tablet) (http://www.dabs.com/products/wacom-wacom-bamboo-pen--tablet--6775.html)
Monitor - BenQ 24" G2420HD (http://www.dabs.com/products/benq-24--g2420hd-5ms-dvi-hdmi-hd-lcd-tft-65FD.html)
Total Cost Â£992.83 (Contact Dunc and you should have a few quid left over for a nice keyboard & mouse)
I've changed a few things to bring it in on budget but this will be a very good system and will certainly do what you want of it.